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    Saw this high up in a tree. I knew it was a wagtail I could here t chirping. It was almost the same colour as the tree . I eventually found it and then luckily it flew down to a lower branch
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    Is that a White Wagtail - as opposed to a 'Pied' one?

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    I think it is a variation of a Pied Wagtail .It is definitely a wagtail.It kept wagging it's tail too.
    Could be a migrant we do get the odd migrant bird now and then.

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    I think this is a Juvenile Pied
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    I believe that pied and white are pretty much the same line, just variations of markings, that certainly looks like a juvenile.
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    Yep I don't think it's anything special just a bit dilute. don't know what time of the year they breed but I'll bet improbably in it's firs year.
    Here it is in the tree showing off his long tail
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    Check this on Wikipedia;
    White Wagtail - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It says, 'In some areas, notably the United Kingdom, the sub-species Pied Wagtail (M. a. yarrellii) predominates.'

    Also, if you go to Pied Wagtail here;
    The RSPB: Pied wagtail

    Click on the '3' above the pic and you'll see the White Wagtail. '2' is pic of the juvenile Pied one.

    In Ayr, we only had Pied Wagtails, and they never looked like the one in your pic, even when young. Down here I've seen both types.

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    It is a white wagtail I think. Probably a migrant. They do vary a bit.
    First time I have seen one this colour though. All the rest are real black and white.
    These were all taken in Exmouth

    Here is a white Wagtail
    http://www.birdguides.com/iris/pictures.asp?f=169766
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    Beryl, the more bird pics I see and the more I read about birds, the less I realise I actually know already (if you follow me!)

    I find the BTO's pieces of info here;
    Pied Wagtail
    and here;
    BTO BirdFacts - Pied Wagtail
    are fascinating - but I'm still unsure if I could positively distinguish a young Pied Wagtail from an adult White One!

    Well, at least I can tell a Robin from a Carrion Crow, ....

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    They are also finding subspecies and that is why some of them have name changes.
    I think this is a white Wag. There is also a much more pure white one in Japan I think.

    File:White-Wagtail.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The all belong to the Pipit family and goodness they are hard to define between

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