not sure what these are

Shot at lavells lake this morning
Joe

Not sure about the first photo Joe but the second photo is of is a Jay.

The first one looks like a female Reed Bunting Joe, there were two females and one male near the feeders late afternoon.:)

http://www.thamesvalleybirds.co.uk/p...e_PA290510.jpg

thanks to both of you. Rolf you confirmed my suspicions.
Chocky you are great, the head markings had me very confused
Joe

Your welcome Joe :)
I really like Jays. They are so shy though